21:00 #spi: < bdale> *GAVEL* 21:00 #spi: < bdale> [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order. 21:00 #spi: < bdale> This meeting also serves as the annual general meeting required in our bylaws. 21:00 #spi: < bdale> Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/agenda/2010/2010-08-11.html 21:00 #spi: < bdale> [item 2, Roll Call] 21:00 #spi: < bdale> Board members, please state your name for the record. As we have eight board members, quorum for today's meeting is six. 21:00 #spi: < bdale> Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to Noodles if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting. 21:00 #spi: < linuxpoet> Joshua D. Drake 21:00 #spi: < Hydroxide> Jimmy Kaplowitz 21:00 #spi: < schultmc> Michael Schultheiss 21:00 #spi: < Noodles> Jonathan McDowell 21:00 #spi: < bdale> Bdale Garbee 21:01 #spi: < schultmc> zobel: ping 21:01 #spi: < Noodles> Regrets have been received from Joerg Jaspert. 21:01 #spi: * Hydroxide will /msg cdlu 21:01 #spi: < bdale> who else are we missing? 21:01 #spi: < bdale> ah, right 21:01 #spi: < Hydroxide> not online 21:02 #spi: < Hydroxide> what the hell, I've done enough international SMSing over the last month or two, what's one more :) /me SMSes cdlu 21:02 #spi: < Noodles> zobel was here 15 minutes ago. 21:03 #spi: < slef> Hydroxide: nonfree but cbfsms or fishtext.com? 21:03 #spi: < bdale> failing to make quorum today wouldn't be fatal given the agenda, but I'm willing to wait a few 21:03 #spi: < Hydroxide> if you have his number, feel free to try him. I don't. 21:03 #spi: < Hydroxide> slef: already sent. it's much less outrageously expensive than international roaming 21:04 #spi: < bdale> I've run our meetings from some strange places in the past, but I suspect today takes the cake... 21:04 #spi: < zobel> Martin Zobel-Helas 21:04 #spi: < bdale> cool! 21:04 #spi: < slef> bdale? 21:04 #spi: < Noodles> Sweet. I was just attempting to SMS. 21:04 #spi: < bdale> [item 3, President's Report] 21:04 #spi: < Hydroxide> yay, quorum 21:04 #spi: < bdale> Hello from the front row of the audience at Eben Moglen's keynote at LinuxCon in Boston! My attention is thus somewhat divided. Nothing else particular to report today. 21:05 #spi: < zobel> sorry for being late, left my laptop charger at work, needed to find my old thinkpad charger.... 21:05 #spi: < bdale> [item 4, Treasurer's Report] 21:05 #spi: < bdale> Michael? 21:05 #spi: < schultmc> A standard report was e-mailed out a few hours ago - I'm not sure if Noodles had a chance to put it in the agenda 21:05 #spi: < Hydroxide> it's there 21:05 #spi: < bdale> I saw it in my inbox, but haven't read it yet. anything unusual? 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> DebConf10 was recently held in NYC thus Debian's balance is affected by the conference costs 21:06 #spi: < Noodles> There was a comment about a double charge for Debian? 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> nothing else of note 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> Noodles: yes - the customs charge for the DebConf video team items was double billed 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> the extra charge has already been credited back 21:06 #spi: < bdale> cool 21:06 #spi: < bdale> anything else? 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> but since it was credited in august, I didn't note it in the july report 21:06 #spi: < Noodles> Fine. 21:06 #spi: < schultmc> nothing else from me 21:06 #spi: * Hydroxide has no other questions 21:06 #spi: < bdale> [item 5, Secretary's report] 21:06 #spi: < bdale> Jonathan? 21:07 #spi: < Noodles> Nothing in particular. I took a brief look at moving the website to ikiwiki while at DebConf, but fell down on trying to export from Plone in any useful fashion. 21:07 #spi: < bdale> I'll be home for a couple weeks, perhaps we can get together and have a look at it next week? 21:08 #spi: < Noodles> Next week I'm moving continent. Not expecting much free time. 21:08 #spi: < linuxpoet> I have a question about that (the website) shoudl I wait? 21:08 #spi: < bdale> go ahead and ask 21:08 #spi: < bdale> Noodles: ok, later then 21:09 #spi: < linuxpoet> I know we decided on ikiwiki but we have had pretty much zero traction on it. I know we have some anti-php people here, but I can push a Drupal site in a weekend. it won't have *all* the content but the capabilities are enormous and solves pretty much everything we need from blogging, to e-commerce, to role based content creation etc... 21:09 #spi: < linuxpoet> I manage four drupal sites in production and there is zero way I could do it with any other platform I can think of 21:09 #spi: < bdale> the problem is getting the data out of Plone, I think, not a concern about what we're going to. I could have an ikiwiki+git site set up in a couple hours... 21:09 #spi: < Noodles> I'm not /that/ anti-PHP but I'd really love something that means I can copy an agenda/meeting template around, edit with vi, and push. Can I do that with Drupal? 21:10 #spi: < Hydroxide> linuxpoet: I'd be fine with that, though I would say that if we go to a Drupal-based thing at all we should probably go to CiviCRM which has useful features for nonprofits like member management and donation integration 21:10 #spi: < linuxpoet> bdale: that's my point, the content is if anything just copy and paste if required (with a little formatting touch) 21:10 #spi: < bdale> we should probably push this conversation outside the meeting since no board action is required 21:10 #spi: * zobel just saw one more php box opened today... please, can we have no PHP?! 21:10 #spi: < linuxpoet> Noodles: well you would "paste" with drupal but other than that sure 21:10 #spi: < Hydroxide> linuxpoet: however I don't plan to stand in the way of anyone doing the work 21:11 #spi: < linuxpoet> Noodles: or create a custom pgsql function via a vim script (which would work too) 21:11 #spi: < bdale> [item 6, Outstanding minutes] 21:11 #spi: < bdale> One set, right Jonathan? 21:11 #spi: * Hydroxide agrees with bdale that it's out of scope for the board meeting. take it up with the secretary :) 21:11 #spi: < Noodles> Yes. Last months. 21:11 #spi: < Noodles> I hope people have looked at them properly. I wrote them after being up for 30+ hours getting home from DebConf. 21:11 #spi: * Hydroxide just read it a few moments ago and is ready to vote to approve 21:12 #spi: < bdale> I skimmed only, but they look ok to me 21:12 #spi: < Noodles> Voting started, 2 people (meeting minutes, july 11th 2010) allowed to vote on bdale,zobel,Hydroxide,linuxpoet,schultmc,Noodles. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 21:12 #spi: < Noodles> Gah. 21:12 #spi: < Noodles> Sorry, wrong way round. 21:12 #spi: < Noodles> Current voting results for "bdale,zobel,Hydroxide,linuxpoet,schultmc,Noodles": Yes: 0, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 2 ( july 11th 2010 meeting minutes ) 21:12 #spi: < Noodles> Voting for "bdale,zobel,Hydroxide,linuxpoet,schultmc,Noodles" closed. 21:12 #spi: * Hydroxide grins in amused sympathy 21:13 #spi: < Noodles> Voting started, 6 people (bdale,zobel,hydroxide,linuxpoet,schultmc,noodles) allowed to vote on Meeting minutes, July 14th 2010. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now. 21:13 #spi: < schultmc> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < zobel> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < Hydroxide> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < bdale> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < linuxpoet> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < Noodles> You'd think I could work the voting script by now. 21:13 #spi: < Noodles> !vote yes 21:13 #spi: < Noodles> Current voting results for "Meeting minutes, July 14th 2010": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 () 21:13 #spi: < Noodles> Voting for "Meeting minutes, July 14th 2010" closed. 21:13 #spi: < bdale> great. thanks! 21:13 #spi: < bdale> [item 7, Any other business] 21:13 #spi: < bdale> Do any board members have other items for discussion they would like to address briefly? 21:13 #spi: < bdale> We had an email from the DPL about the idea of sustaining membership, is anyone prepared to talk to that or should we discuss in email and revisit next month? 21:14 #spi: < Noodles> I wondered if it required more from us than continuous card authority bits? 21:14 #spi: * schultmc can speak briefly on it 21:14 #spi: < zobel> bdale: we also have that debian.eu domain thing pending. 21:14 #spi: < bdale> schultmc: go 21:14 #spi: < bdale> zobel: right, any update 21:14 #spi: < schultmc> our payment processors already allow recurrent charges (and some donors already select that option) 21:14 #spi: < bdale> ? 21:14 #spi: < Noodles> I think we needed to draft a letter to the current owner re debian.eu 21:15 #spi: < bdale> schultmc: ah, so could be mostly an issue of documenting that ? do we need a status badge or something to go with it? 21:15 #spi: < zobel> bdale: i asked for a native english speaker to mail them during the last board meeting. 21:15 #spi: < zobel> IIRC 21:15 #spi: < schultmc> bdale: a status badge or some other documentation/acknowledgement/encouragement of recurring donations would be useful 21:15 #spi: < Noodles> zobel: I think you asked on board@ rather than IRC. 21:16 #spi: < bdale> schultmc: ok, let's come up with something before next meeting? 21:16 #spi: < Noodles> (I had intended to draft one and didn't.) 21:16 #spi: < schultmc> bdale: ok 21:16 #spi: < bdale> Noodles: can you take ownership for following up on that? 21:16 #spi: < Noodles> I can, but I can't promise a quick response over the next few weeks. 21:17 #spi: < bdale> Noodles: understood. should someone else take it? not clear to me that I'd be of great help here without a back-fill on details or I'd offer to. 21:17 #spi: < Noodles> I'll see what I can do; I'm probably the native English speaker with most experience of dealing with .eu, even if it's a few years old now. 21:18 #spi: < bdale> ok, thanks. ask if you need help. 21:18 #spi: < bdale> any other items? 21:18 #spi: < bdale> [item 8, Next board meeting] 21:18 #spi: < bdale> Our next regularly-scheduled monthly meeting should be September th at 20:00 UTC. 21:18 #spi: < bdale> Any strong objections? 21:18 #spi: < linuxpoet> yeah 21:18 #spi: < linuxpoet> there is no date 21:18 #spi: < schultmc> September what? 21:18 #spi: < Noodles> There's a missing 8 there. :) 21:18 #spi: < bdale> ugh .. sorry, typo 21:19 #spi: * Hydroxide has no objection to September 8th at 20:00 UTC 21:19 #spi: < linuxpoet> wfm 21:19 #spi: < bdale> anyone else? 21:19 #spi: < Noodles> Should be fine. 21:19 #spi: < bdale> it should be ok for me 21:19 #spi: < bdale> Ok, thank you to everyone present for participating today. 21:19 #spi: < bdale> *GAVEL*